Not In My Name.

Today our glorious leader will be sending a letter to the European parliament to formally announce the start of the process for the UK leaving the EU.

I am hugely sad about this for a number of reasons – I was stunned by the result of the referendum last year and have been quietly hoping that it was either all a bad dream, or that there was some undercurrent within the political machine that would make it possible to review the decision in the cold light of day and with some truthful data, rather than the hate-fuelled scaremongering that characterised the original campaigns.

And yet here we are, several months later, with the main protagonists in this awful storyline having slunk away into the wings until everything has blown over, about to drive the bus off the cliff because that’s what the passengers have voted for.

I feel sad that the idea of being part of a world greater than our own small shores is so scary to so many people. I feel sad that so many of my fellow countrymen can’t see the benefit of the free flow of people as a positive thing, despite all the evidence to back this notion up. I feel sad that so many people in our small island see the self imposed exile that we are about to inflict on ourselves as ‘taking back control’.

But I shall travel. I shall see new things and I shall continue to be bewildered by the little Englanders who see anything not draped in a Union Jack as somehow lesser.

Sigh.

NDC

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4 comments

  1. From a leave advocate
    I think that we all would like to live in the john Lennon world of “Imagine” if the truth be told (well most of us) but I am not convinced that immigration, all though a concern in some people’s mind’s was the main issue, for many right minded people for voting out.
    Can we look at some of the real facts, rather than emotion and media spin.
    Influence
    It is possible that readers of some of the trash red tops may influence the none right minded people but there circulation is on the falling and cannot have the influence they once had. Circulation 2016; Sun 1.787m, Mail, 1.589m, Mirror 0.809m, Star 0.470m, Express 0.408m (Source Wikipedia) Although I feel that these readers are more likely to be the people that do not vote.
    The inception
    Having grown up in the 60’s and was 13 when we joined the Union in 1972 I remember clearly the discussion with my parents and grandparents. The intention at that time was NOT to create the United States Of Europe and to me that was very much the way that it was heading.
    Let’s look at the fact on law making;
    Between 1993 and 2014 Parliament passed 945 Acts of which 231 implemented EU obligations of some sort.
    It also passed 33,160 Statutory Instruments, 4,283 of which implemented EU obligations. Add both of these together and divide by the total number of laws passed, and you get the 13% figure.
    But that’s not really an accurate figure because most EU regulations don’t require new UK laws. They can be implemented in the UK without new legislation, for example by simply changing administrative rules. So, the 13% figure doesn’t take into account EU regulations that don’t need additional UK legislation to be brought into force.
    If you count all EU regulations, EU-related Acts of Parliament, and EU-related Statutory Instruments, about 62% of laws introduced between 1993 and 2014 that apply in the UK implemented EU obligations. (Source BBC).
    Let’s also look at our voting power that affect these 62% of our laws;
    You can Google how may MEP per country yourself be please consider this very serious point;
    Up until now, seats of the European Parliament have been allocated to Member States through political bartering, rather than a rigorous process. Malta which is the smallest with a population of around 400,000, is guaranteed at least 6 seats. Similarly, no state, not even Germany which with a population of around 82 million is the largest state in the EU, is allowed more than 96 seats. (Source Plus.Maths.org)
    The European citizens’ relative lack of interest in the European Parliament is often blamed by critics on its inherent inequality of representation. Voters in smaller member states are overrepresented. Germany’s Federal Constitutional Court, when ruling on the Lisbon Treaty on June 30, 2009, said that the European Parliamentary election process “does not take due account of equality.” In the Court’s view, this constitutes one of two key factors in the European Union’s “structural democratic deficit,” the other being the European Parliament’s “position in the European competence structure,” i.e. its lack of power compared to other EU institutions. (Source Wikipedia).
    The conclusion is unfair representation, and as we are talking about proportion representation (Which is not something I am a fan of) that is not proportional!
    Finance
    The UK pays more into the EU budget than it gets back.
    In 2016 the UK government paid £13.1 billion to the EU budget, and EU spending on the UK was forecast to be £4.5 billion. So the UK’s ‘net contribution’ was estimated at about £8.6 billion.
    Each year the UK gets an instant discount on its contributions to the EU—the ‘rebate’—worth almost £4 billion last year. Without it the UK would have been liable for £17 billion in contributions.
    Looking at the charts below the UK is paying huge amounts of money to Greece, Luxemburg and Poland etc.

    I think you could agree that in the UK we are underfunded in the following areas; Police Service, Prison Services, education (specifically the number of hours teachers work and the fact that they are losing the good ones at an alarming rate) And of course the NHS. Should we be funding the Greece above addressing the above needs, and don’t get me started on roads and potholes.
    Final the economy.
    Just a few discussion points really, we have been a trading nation for time immemorial. The current currency fluctuation is more down to the traders are taking a short position after the out vote, rather than anything to do with the economy has taken a dive. This is the reason there was little or no currency movement on last Wednesday. Because any one that was going to had already taken up the short position.
    In the long run, the future trading will be with USA and China, and Europe we continue to trade with UK. In 5 and 7 years any fluctuations in the economy will have worked through and we will be in a stronger position.
    I will e mail in full what i have written with the graphs. lets discuss down the pub 🙂

  2. And another thing…………………

    Common Agricultural Policy.

    As you are well aware…or maybe not[

    The programme is the most expensive scheme in the EU – accounting for more than 43% of its annual budget – and one of the most controversial.
    The CAP began operating in 1962, with the Community intervening to buy farm output when the market price fell below an agreed target level.
    In negotiations on the creation of a Common Market, France insisted on a system of agricultural subsidies as its price for agreeing to free trade in industrial goods.
    This helped reduce Europe’s reliance on imported food in the 60’s but led before long to over-production, and in the 70’s the creation of “mountains” and “lakes” of surplus food and drink.
    The Community also taxed imports and, from the 1970s onward, subsidised agricultural exports. These policies have been damaging for foreign farmers, and made Europe’s food prices some of the highest in the world.
    In 2013 the budget for direct farm payments (subsidies) and rural development – the twin “pillars” of the CAP – is 57.5bn euros (£49bn), out of a total EU budget of 132.8bn euros (that is 43% of the total). Most of the CAP budget is direct payments to farmers. (Source BBC website)

    At the moment farmers in England receive ‘single farm payments’ of around £2 billion every year based on acreage alone. They also receive around £400 million under the CAP for ‘agri-environment schemes’ like building ponds or planting trees!!

    Peter Kendall, President of the National Farmers Union, said now was not the time to be forcing farmers to set aside land when food prices are going up.
    He pointed out that other compulsory measures on keeping land in permanent pasture and rotating crops may also limit the ability to grow food – and further push up prices.
    He insisted that farmers will do a better job of protecting wildlife by offering voluntary environmental subsidies to set aside land for wildlife.
    “If farmers are forced to set aside land we will run into supply issues very quickly,” he said. ‘“I see some perverse and unintended consequences. Seven per cent environmentally managed area could emphatically have an effect on food production and could cause food inflation.” Source (Telegraph Friday 31 March 2017)

    This whole scheme is obviously nut paying farmer to set aside land to push prices up. We can do much better ourselves at controlling and supporting agriculture outside the EU (Source Andy Betts)

    Immigration

    Mr Chandler as a staunch Pro EU campaigner that is pro free move of people and I would guess vote for Schengen Agreement applying to the UK.

    You seem to think all the people that voted out was solely because of immigration. I have not seen any other argument from you!

    But Hang on a minute…………………………..

    The EU are doing just the same with countries outside the EU. How is that any different from the UK wanting border control and control to have controlled migration?????

    See the two articles below

    The Paradox. of the EU-Turkey Refugee Deal

    As European governments rapidly turn their attention to the implementation of the EU-Turkey agreement, observers have raised serious questions regarding whether the deal itself is legal, and more importantly, if it will even work. The 28 EU heads of state forged the March 18 deal with Turkey with their backs seemingly against the wall, and in an atmosphere of palpable panic. At its core, the agreement aims to address the overwhelming flow of smuggled migrants and asylum seekers traveling across the Aegean from Turkey to the Greek islands by allowing Greece to return to Turkey “all new irregular migrants” arriving after March 20. In exchange, EU Member States will increase resettlement of Syrian refugees residing in Turkey, accelerate visa liberalization for Turkish nationals, and boost existing financial support for Turkey’s refugee population.
    For leaders the objective was clear: to find a way to prevent unchecked arrivals into the European Union. The fact that a group of 28 states with increasingly divergent interests was able to find consensus speaks to the level of concern that leaders have for their own domestic political futures in a context of rising populism.
    However, the deal has also unveiled a paradox for a European Union that has spent several decades preaching its own high asylum standards to neighboring countries. To achieve its self-imposed goal—a significant reduction in arrivals and an increase in returns to Turkey—policymakers will have to drastically cut legal corners, potentially violating EU law on issues such as detention and the right to appeal. But if governments execute the agreement in conformity with international and European legal frameworks, few arrivals are likely to be returned, and the agreement risks becoming the latest in a long series of undelivered promises to exasperated publics for whom the complex legal conundrums of implementation are both meaningless and irrelevant. (Source Migration Policy Institute Web site)

    Italy Libya deal

    EU leaders have endorsed on Friday (3 February) an Italian agreement signed the day before with Libya, aimed at stopping the flow of migrants into Europe through the Mediterranean Sea.
    Italy already on Thursday pledged money, training and equipment to help the UN-backed Libyan government curb migration in a memorandum of understanding that Libyan prime minister Fayez al-Seraj signed in Rome with Italian prime minister Paolo Gentiloni.
    The deal, reminiscent of earlier accords to stop migration between Italy and then Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi, comes amid EU efforts to stem the flow of migrants on the central Mediterranean route, which has become the main point of entry to Europe, since countries closed the Western Balkan route for migrants last year.(EU today website)

    OWE MY GOODNESS IMMIGRATION CONTROL!!

    WHEN DO WE GET A RESPONSE TO ALL OF ABOVE ANDY??

    Pub Now?

    Detail with graphs in your inbox.

  3. Should the EU really be wasting time on money on the following. No wonder we voted out. they make the whole organisation ridiculous and wasting money.

    Cucumbers and bananas should not be bendy

    International ridicule erupted when the EU stated that all bananas must be “free of abnormal curvature”.

    Under the rules, cucumbers were to be “practically straight” and bent by a gradient of no more than 1/10.

    But imperfectly-shaped fruit and vegetables were back on the supermarket shelves by 2009 when Britain opted to reform the crazy rule.

    Water does NOT prevent dehydration

    If you’ve been on a mighty old work out or you’re struggling with a sore heard from a heavy night out, drinking water will NOT ease your pain.

    Well, that’s according to the EU.

    In 2011 they passed a law, which claimed scientists had found no evidence to suggest drinking water stopped dehydration.

    This meant manufacturers of bottled drinking water were prohibited from labelling their product with anything that would suggest consumption would fight dehydration.

    Prunes will NOT fight your bowel problems

    Meddling legislators made it illegal for prunes to be sold as a super food that acts as a laxative.

    And after a thorough investigation, the EU ruled: “The evidence provided is insufficient to establish a cause and effect relationship between the consumption of dried plums of ‘prune’ cultivars and maintenance of normal bowel function”

    But anyone who has ever taken part in a ‘who can eat the most prunes’ competition would surely disagree with this..

    Turnips are NOT swede

    In 2010 the EU decided to make sure one and all knew the difference between a turnip and a swede.

    Now supermarkets are encouraged to avoid confusion when labelling both vegetables.

    And this is because locals in Cornwall often refer to their swedes as turnips.

    Eggs CANNOT be sold by the dozen

    Fury erupted when shopkeepers were told all food must be weighed and sold by the kilo – instead of the number contained in the packet back in 2010.

    And even though British shoppers can still buy a dozen of eggs, it is now priced based wholly on the weight.

    EU in a JAM over preserves

    Barmy EU regulators stopped sellers using the word ‘jam’ on their products if the sugar content was more than 60 per cent.

    Instead anything containing less thad to be called a “fruit spread”, while a low sugar jam with less than 50 per cent of sugar was named a “conserve”.

    But lawmakers got themselves out of the sticky situation by relaxing these laws in 2013.

  4. This article was written in 2012 and is about the fact that 5% of the EU budget is misappropriated! Source debatingEurope.com how can we let this carry on. Another good reason to get out of the EU…………

    Read on.

    It didn’t exactly come as a surprise. Last month, the European Union was told by its own spending watchdog that its accounts could not be given a clean bill of health – for the 19th year in a row.
    In fact, it has never received a full seal of approval (it has only had auditors for 19 years).
    Some 4.8 per cent of the EU budget in 2012 was spent on projects that should never have received the money – a total of about £5.5bn, including up to £800m from British taxpayers. This was an increase in the ‘error rate’ from 3.9 per cent the previous year, and it was the third consecutive year that the figure had risen.
    The European Court of Auditors (ECA) said ‘all operational spending areas were affected by material error in 2012′, adding: ‘Typical errors include payments for beneficiaries or projects that were ineligible or for purchases of services, goods or investments without proper application of public purchasing rules.’

    It emerged as a separate report concluded that some of the £418m of EU funds given to help rebuild the Italian city of L’Aquila after an earthquake in 2009 could have ended up in the hands of the mafia.
    Then there are the ECA’s findings that £840m given to Egypt between 2007 and 2012 to support human rights programmes were almost impossible to trace as Egypt published no figures on where the money was spent. So what is going wrong?
    Philip Bradbourn MEP, the Conservative spokesman on EU budgetary control, said that a similar amount of ‘misappropriation and misspending’ in a commercial business would result in widespread sackings.
    He told Metro that just because the EU is a gargantuan organisation doesn’t mean we should expect mismanagement of this kind, and added that the solution is a ‘dedicated, full-time budgetary control commissioner to tackle misspending and fraud’, a proposal which has received parliamentary backing for next year.
    Fellow Tory MEP Marta Andreasen, who was sacked as chief accountant of the European Commission back in 2004 after claiming the EU’s budget was wide open to fraud and abuse, said: ‘Sadly, I am no longer shocked. It is not a case of a few rotten apples in the barrel – the barrel itself is the problem. There are no proper checks and balances in place.
    ‘This is a public institution. You and I are giving our tax money to it. The least we can expect is some basic responsibility and, above all, accountability. These are huge figures we are talking about.’
    Ms Andreasen said some of the ‘misspending’ should be plainly labelled as fraud, adding that the ECA had found so-called farms that were subsidised in Spain, Austria and Portugal that were covered with rocks and bushes.
    She asked: ‘If this is not a deliberate intention to deceive then what is?’

    Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2013/12/10/a-waste-of-money-eu-spends-5-billion-in-wrong-areas-by-mistake-4224025/#ixzz4fRsG4nch

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